Northern Off Road Club: Forum Posts

Gainsthorpe event

Richard Canterbury

Well said there Mark, I'll try not to repeat anything you said again, but agree with it all. I know after the first event I helped set out I was suprised to see how much work goes into organising an event, not just on the day but before and after. From a drivers point of view its far too easy to turn up to an event and moan when something doesn't go right (timing issues, late start time etc) but I promise you all that after you assist with the running of an event you would never moan again, the people that do this every month without thanks are the poeple that keep the club running, hardwork aside though it's incredibly rewarding especially when it finally goes to plan, I enjoyed this weekend as much as I do when i'm racing (nothing to do with getting to play on the quad all weekend!!) and I intend on helping organise/setting out an event every season.

Gainsthorpe event

steve wells

what an excellant post, it is discussion like this that makes a club be a club, the more everybody gets involved the better the club and NORC needs this. If every little group could get one more to help and stay with the club we would be all better for it. So follow this lead, introduce a new member who can enjoy working with the regulars who make it all possible well done team Canterbury great event Steve

Gainsthorpe event

Michelle Hall

Well, Mark, what a nice 'rant'. It's just what I've said before. Every driver should help to run an event at least once. It would be good for everyone to know what goes into running an event. That way, if things do go a bit wrong at times, there may be more understanding and maybe others could help. Members do pay their fees and are quite entitled to get to an event, race and then go home again, but for the organisers, getting there a day or two before, running the event and then packing everything away at the end makes for a very long and tiring weekend. I used to just come, sit around the camp and go home again, but I get so much more out of a race weekend when I muck in and help out. (In fact I felt a bit lost this weekend, as there was so much help I wasn't needed!)

Congrats to everyone in setting out a brilliant course and making the weekend run smoothly.

Gainsthorpe event

Mark Shaw

Well what a good weekend Gainsthorpe was from my point of view, it has really opened my eyes to what goes into making an event happen, and it feels timely to thank all the people involved in the events I have turned up to race at and never really thought about how the magic sticks, wagon,entriy lists, timing, mashalls, toilets, catering, paperwork etc, etc all just work and not just work but work well due to great team work over comming the obsticles that arrise at the events.

Well I do now its a lot of graft from a lot of people that don't really get alot of thanks for doing what they do, so I would like to send a belated thanks to all of you that have taken part in anything from hitting a stick to pressing a start or finish button your all stars but I suppose thats what makes a good club work.

The girls in the wagon (Sue and Fiona this weekend but I know others help at other events so thanks to you) deserve a special mention for sticking it out event after event in that boiling greenhouse of a wagon it is really appreciated and is such a key thankless role.

I may not play a massive part at most events other than racing and maybe making a fool of myself on an evening and I don't think either of these things will change but as long as the guys from our camp like Rich Canterbury (who really did pull out the stops before during and after to make things go smothly) Cooney the man who strode rather than strolled pretty much all weekend on a mission, and then Jamie (the lad that needs a hair cut!!!) a friend of Rich's who attended his first event this weekend with us and bashed sticks all day Friday and got involved in anything we asked of himover the weekend, are up for it then we will set out and run an event each year which will hopefully make up for doing nothing at the rest of the events (unless asked of course).

If you are like me and just turn up and race you really need to do your bit and run an event believe me it isn't easy, I hope you all enjoyed the weekend see you at manby where I will just be turning up to race but will make sure I spend 10 mins at the end thanking all of the people who have given up there time to make it happen, also another point to consider and I will thank Tim Sagar for my run round the course this weekend as its good to see the course you have spent so long setting out at speed, so maybe seeing the Clerk of course and offering a run round for one of the organisers is a way you can show your appreciation we are all racers at the end of the day!!!!!!!!

Its ended up a bit of a rant but I guess you will all get me point

Mark

Independent new class ?

paul shore

midland offroad club are talking about this on there forum

old trial pics

david armstrong

hi does anybody have pictures / photos from trials aprox 15 yrs back. looking for silver suzuki sj reg no C43 EKO in particular

For Sale Independent Off Road Racer

Julian robinson

For Sale

This is an opportunity to purchase a 90% finished independent V8 mid engined Off Road Racer, built to the highest specifications. All parts fitted are brand new.

Specifications:-

5.0 Litre V8 engine built by V8 Developments, down draught throttle bodies, stage 4 heads, engine wiring loom, aluminium pulleys, DTA Pro engine management, electric water pump and light weight racing battery. Fully dyno'd with matched length tubular manifolds with stainless steel exhaust system with re packable silencer.

6 speed Elite sequential gearbox, full throttle up-shift, dashboard gear indicator, additional drop gears, oil pump, 2 lightened and balanced fly wheels, Super clutch triple plate clutch and concentric release bearing.

Aluminium handbrake callipers.

Milner Transfer box.

Professionally built and balanced prop-shafts.

BMW Differentials and Range rover sport drive shafts (still boxed).

Aluminium uprights with brake bells and discs.

Fox Shoxs all round (4 coil overs and 4 twin bi pass).

Corbeau revolution seats with head restraints.

Custom made aluminium radiator, engine and gearbox cooler with cowling & fans.

Custom made foam filled aluminium fuel tank (easily removable to replace with bag tank if needed), water header tank, oil catch tank, power steering reservoir and screen wash tank.

Complete under body panelling in high spec aluminium.

Dashboard in aluminium with rev counter, shift light, terratrip and gearbox indicator, also all interior panelling in aluminium with quick release fitting for easy cleaning.

All exterior body panels in fibreglass (including the moulds).

Woodward steering rack and actuator.

Tilton pedal box and reservoirs.

The vehicle comes on a set of alloys with road tyres and there is a set of Matt Lee split rims with aluminium centres for racing on (freshly powder coated).

Zero 2000 electronic plumbed in fire extinguisher.

This vehicle can be purchased as it is or can be finished to your specifications (at additional cost).

Sensible offers only invited.

Julian Robinson, JR Fabrications.

Tel.: 07811 355901

Steering

Jonathan Barker

On my old racer I had a coleman 2:1 steering quickener which made the steering very heavy. I drilled out the outlet (high pressure side) from the steering pump to about 4.5mm ish and it made the steering a lot lighter and a lot easier to drive.

My tomcat now has an adwest quick box which so far has been fantastic but cost a fortune!

Steering

Spencer Hall

Yes Adwest, do a steering box for disabled drivers that as only got I think 1 or 2 full turns lock to lock. I believe that some tomcats have them fitted. The main shaft is alot bigger.

Steering

colin brindley

I think the Adwest unit is the only answer

Steering

andy morrison

Having run my car for a couple of events to find out what’s what, I’m looking to get rid of the steering quickener as its crap!

It just makes the steering heavy and abit vague (or even more vague in a landy sort of way) and it isn’t that quick!!

Has anyone got any solutions other that a quicker steering box???

Faster arms just aren’t going to happen!!

cheers

andy

Independent new class ?

paul shore

hi all,

i agree with peters classes,it would stop me making numbers up and allow me to race against cars in my class,thats racing..

Racer For Sale

Luke Sagar

104” wheelbase disco chassis, mid engined 4.6 rover V8 very low mileage from new mildly tuned, 3 speed jag auto box with a Pete Roberts transfer box conversion also very low mileage only done 4 events, two 2” remote reservoir fox shocks per corner, 12” travel on front 14” travel at rear, ally rad and oil coolers, works simmbughini strengthened and quickened steering, modified and strengthened king pins, 24 spline axles with welded diff in rear and big shafts in rear, big 4 pot callipers all round, low mileage propshaft clinic props, foam filled ally tank, red top battery, car weighs roughly 1400 kg, comes with large spares package

This is a very quick car and runs in the top 5 or 6 at NORC. 3^rd overall at Kirton Lindsey 09, 4^th overall at Stainby 09, and numerous class wins. Car doesn’t suffer from over heating and has never been boiled up, and doesn’t miss in wet conditions, and the back end doesn’t kick up like most cars, all in all this is well sorted car. Please call for any further information

£7500 ono

Call Luke on 07882134976 or Richard on 07771545789

Address Details

Spencer Hall

The club is using a company call http://www.cfhdocmail.com/ to post out flyers and special offers to members, in order for members and none members to receive the flyers we need the correct postal address details.

We have around 320 contacts, but out of this we only have 190 actual addresses.

If you wish to receive special offers, please complete your address details in the my details section of the web site.

Thanks

Spencer

RESULTS.

Spencer Hall

At the end of each event, it is the competitors responsibility to check their own results. There will be 30 minutes at the end of the racing in which to appeal. All results after 30 minutes will be final.

Stilo helmets

Luke Sagar

A pair of intercom full face stilo helmets with 9 v stilo intercom medium sized.

£ 400 ono

call luke on 07882134976

Membership prices

Michelle Hall

Memberships for the remainder of the season are now half price. See News page for details.

WebSite Stats

Spencer Hall

stats from google, click here to download pdf.

let me know if there is somthing you think i am missing, cos there are loads of options and reports.

Camping fees at sites

Spencer Hall

Can members please ensure that if they have camped or know someone in their party that as camped at events, can they please make sure that the camping fees are paid. To the secartary of the meeting.

Thanks

Spencer

Independent new class ?

Anthony Aveyard

Hi all, It looks like some good ideas coming forward, with regard to diesels, perhaps it would be simpler to say with throtle cable or electronic, thus seperating BMW 2.5's with up to 230 bhp with tdi's ect with 160

Also the electronics are more costly to mobilise, where as a 200 disco with a cooler and a cage could be up and runniing for arround 1500/2000 and still be road leagal

SCOTTISH PERTHSHIRE HILL RALLY

peter urwin

Are any of our drivers going to enter the Scottish Hill Rally? I notice that the deadline for entries is fast approaching, so don't leave it too much longer! The event takes place on Friday 16th and Saturday 17th July, and you don't need to upgrade your licence; a Clubman's licence is sufficient!

If you haven't already done so, have a look at the website- http:scottish-hillrally.co.uk/joomla/

There will be approx 100miles of special stage miles to cover- should be a good event again, hope to see some of you there,

Fiona

HELLO, ANYBODY OUT THERE

Andrew Smith

Hi Captain,

Thanks for the invite, do you have hot water and loos or do I need to bring my own?

Not sure how advanced you are In Lincolnshire.

Chhers

HELLO, ANYBODY OUT THERE

Captain Chaos

You'll just have to travel a little South over the bridge, we race a few sites in Lincolnshire, (Manby, Gainsthorpe, Stainby)

Make sure you take your phrase book, and are fully vacinated, as we throw those who can't comunicate properly back in the Humber!!!

The Last event of the year is at Driffield if that helps. Mind you if you know of a decent piece of land the commitee are always looking for land.

Independent new class ?

Captain Chaos

steve wells wrote:

As for the mechanical or common rail-- this does not help the entry level at all, the top of every club will always be OK, it is the entry level where we have to be seen to encouraging new members. Steve

Steve, this is not to benefit the 'top of the club', common rail engines are more expensive, but easier to tweak to high horsepowers, seperating them will seperate these high power highly tweaked engines from the old mechanical pumped engines (eg 200/300tdi), thus helping the entry level competitors, with their 'standard low cost engines'

As for the mixed axles I agree, but I was just making a point before the rules are made so if a mixed axle racer is presented there are regulations to deal with it

LOVERSALL FLYER & ENTRY FORM

Michelle Hall

Please note that some details have been changed on the flyer, so make sure you have the latest one. The correct one has been uploaded on the previous posting and on the events page.

LOVERSALL FLYER & ENTRY FORM

Michelle Hall

Flyer and entry form for Loversall has now been uploaded on events page (Loversall) as well as here. (click)

Anyone wanting to race, who are not members, send your membership forms and cheques to me up to the Wednesday before the event.

For club membership form, click here.

Independent new class ?

colin brindley

Looks good to me Peter.

I think the big issue though is Beam against independant as new members are more likely to be using beam axled derived cars. Eg 90s,Rangies,tomcats etc

Maybe diesels racing against diesels are an issue but Im unsure of how many we are racing in the club and if the current classes would put anyone off starting with us.

HELLO, ANYBODY OUT THERE

Andrew Smith

Hi,

Just found your website, is there anybody out there that wants to go off roading in North Yorkshire? Don't see many people around.

Independent new class ?

Peter Widdop

I agree with Simon on the diesel perspective, a common rail engine can perform better than a mechanical pumped diesel engine. The website still has the old classes on it anyway not this years. We could amalgamate 2 of the coil sprung petrol classes we don't really get many small petrol engines anyway, and add 2 classes for independant cars and only have 11 classes. We could keep the handicap for turbo's as it is, i would imaging all diesel engines that we get competing would be fitted with a turbo anyway. I'll put my idea for classes up, then people can say what they think about them, say what they would alter, at least it is a starting point.

Class1 - Production / Standard

Class 2 - ATV / Single Seat

Class 3 - 2 Wheel drive

Class 4 - Leaf Sprung

Class 5 - Diesel Coil Sprung non common-rail

Class 6 - Diesel Coil Sprung common rail

Class 7 - Petrol Beam Axle Coil Sprung upto 3500cc

Class 8 - Petrol Beam Axle Coil Sprung 3501cc - 4300cc

Class 9 - Petrol Beam Axle Coil Sprung 4301cc and greater

Class 10 - Independant Petrol

Class 11 - Independant Diesel

This way the independant classes 10 & 11 could be amalgamated should their be insufficient entries, as could the diesel classes 5 & 6, I think it would attract more people into the 200 / 300 tdi powered motor. Do we still want a leaf sprung class? A coil sprung chassis can be picked up for peanuts these days, when did we last have a leaf sprung motor enter an event. If we did drop this it would mean we are back to 10 classes. The other option would be to put the leaf sprung motors into the same class as production cars, as numbers are small. Please post comments / alterations, at least it gives the club a starting point should we decide we want to change our classes at the AGM.

Baden Hall Results

Peter Widdop

Sorry for the delay guys had a bit of an incident with some drunk uninsured driver squashing my discovery in the middle of the week so I've been pre-occupied with that. Results are now on the championship page, the championship points will be updated as soon as possible. The results show a lot of AWDC drivers retired after 8 runs, these were the guys that only competed on Sunday towards their championship. I have an excel document that has both clubs together and AWDC and NORC results seperated. If anybody wants that send me an email offroadpete@hotmail.co.uk and I'll forward it onto you as soon as I can.

Cheers, Pete.

Independent new class ?

steve wells

Like any mixed suspension type the best, in this senario indy, takes preference there classed as indy-- problem solved not created.

Well i am in total agreement with Steve on this one,In fact i think the problem started back in 2001 after the foot and mouth,People realised how much money they had saved by not competing and never really returned to the sport.In 2000 i competed in a £1500 leaf sprung motor and after 13 events finished 6th overall and first in class with norc and 7th overall first in class with the ANCC on minimal expense.Most of these events were one day with the occational weekend do on bank hols.That year there were 53 drivers in the championship.In my opinion its not just the entry fee thats keeping the numbers down.With petrol at around £1.20 a litre a two day event costs twice as much in fuel and twice the risk of doing costly damage.Plus like Steve said most of us work saturdays.The entry level for the sport has to be within reach of the normal working person and if they then want to go on and build a 5 litre indy car then thats upto them.I think it needs to be more inviting to the clubman or the numbers will reduce even more.

I think you are quite right Rob/Steve, its the grass roots that need encouraging, its good to have these independants racing but once they decide they have had enough they're off to "The British" *(christ knows why???) whereas your lower budget race teams are more likely to stay with the club and hopefully develop their cars and the club.

My thoughts on the championship are another matter altogether!!!

I am not convinced by the 2 day races, as you pointed out some people have to work Saturdays, my thoughts, as I have expressed at com meetings are that one day events with 2 at Bank holidays may encourage again some of the lower budget racers.

Independent new class ?

Ted Leahy

How much are trophy's? If more classes mean more expensive trophys then this will just up entry prices. There is no point in having loads of classes unless we have loads of members racing because classes will just end up being combined anyway. If we need new members & feel an entry level class is needed why not run a class for novices? I think there will be many different views on this topic and it will be very difficult to decide on an outcome that suites everyone. Personally I just enjoy racing and am happy to race in any class!!!!

Independent new class ?

steve wells

Carrick Armer

Hiya folks

Just a quick 'un to say I've posted a massive number (129!) of pics from the Stainby event at the weekend to the web.

They're at http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/PyrosYardProductions/NORC_Stainby . If anyone wants higher-resolution copis of any they like, drop me an email with the picture number and I'll send copies over.

Cheers

Pyro

colway c traxs

toni stolarski

two new colway c trax size 235 65 16 as new never been run just put on rim then taken back off ideal for a two wheel drive buggy £30 each or £50 the pair

plus we also so do roof vents for landrovers flat and curve fittin £100 and take moulds of any thing you have or want making wider smaller bigger you get the idea e mail me tonistolarski@hotmail.co.uk

also 6mm thick mud flats to your size £35 pounds a pair any shape give us the size and we make a mould and make them

spaceframe racer for sale

Anthony Emmott

SOLD ! :)

msa statement on helmets

peter urwin

Re SA2005 helmets , no expiery date has yet been given. It is normal for snell helmet standards to last minimum of ten years.

Snell SA2000 has been extended to 31/12/2014

any queries please ring

regards

peter

Iveco 5ton flat bed

gordon renshaw

forgot to put the price £1,500

Iveco 5ton flat bed

gordon renshaw

Iveco 50/10 turbo daily double cab 5 seater, alli flat bed carry's my tomcat , storage lockers under the sides. Resprayed last year, 12 moths test taxed till may, new tyres. Reliable cheap truck. Phone for more details Gordon 07703205849

Cable drums for club wanted

Regards

Spencer

Helmets again...

Ted Leahy

I have been hearing rumours that the helmet regulation may change again so that we end up need the Hans attachment? As I am just about to buy a new one can anyone shed any light on this? Dont want to fork out on a new lid & then have to chenge it next year!!!

Cheers

Ted

map test

Spencer Hall

Mudflaps

benn huntingford

http://www.bwhperformance.co.uk/mud_flaps.html

Spill Kits for Wickenby

Michelle Hall

Don't forget, everyone racing is required to carry a spill kit. If you need a new one for this year they can be bought for a very reasonable £5 from the timing wagon.

Tomcat build diary

Ted Leahy

A friend sent me this - Modified from a Westfield enthusiast. There is more if anyone wants it....

Sunday 3^rd January 2010

Tomcat corner weight: broke bath room scales when I lowered the rear wheel onto it. Will have to come up with another solution. Went to the pub to meet a friend of a friend who’s flogging a RPI 4.6V8 for £200. Idiot didn’t show, alcohol units 14 (but effectively covers 2 days as I’ll still have alcohol in my system at midnight), cigarettes 22.
5:30pm - my garage: Ugh. The last thing on earth I feel physically, emotionally or mentally equipped to do is take the heads off the engine to see why the bugger’s smoking. Decide make a cup of tea and ask a few questions on the NORC website. My first attempt elicits the rather rude responses of “use the bloody search facility” and “don’t ask such broad questions.” Look at Message Board Chat instead and enter a debate about washing machines.
8:30pm - and still have not touched the engine. My mate, Mick the Spanner, calls round to keep out of his wife’s hair while she’s decorating the hall. Spanner offers to help with the engine. Back in the garage he sticks his finger in the end of the exhaust, examines the blackened digit suspiciously before announcing the engine’s smoking because it’s running rich. “You need to back off the idle,” he says, then wipes the finger on his yellow diamond-patterned sweater.
I whip the Tomcats’s bonnet off, point to the twin 45’s and ask, “Which screw’s that then, Spanner?”
11.45pm - Spanner thinks it’s safe to go back home and I’m on the NORC Forum again. I ask the guys ligging around Techie Talk where the idle screw is. 20 minutes later my simple question has developed into an argument about suspension angles on Megablades(?).
11:50pm - decide to give up smoking tomorrow. Go to bed with my Haynes Car Electrics manual and fall asleep trying to decipher the index.
Have a dream about the Tomcats’s bonnet flying off at speed and decapitating the mother-in-law.

Tuesday 2^nd February
Tomcat corner weight: ring Tomcat motorsport techie guy to find out what the corner weight of the Car should be. Never really been able to understand nasal Brum so asked him to send me the information via email translated into Southern English.
3:15pm - the wife’s idiot brother, Frankie “Grease Gun” Roach calls to say he’d scored a couple of fibreglass wings. Arranged to meet him in the pub later. Went on the NORC site to ask about converting Aluminium wings to fibreglass wings. As usual the testosterone was flying and they’re busy arguing about the lengths of input shafts?. Cigarettes 28 (but will soon give up for Lent so might as well smoke self into disgusted smoking frenzy).
8:12pm - meet up with Grease Gun in the Fickle Firkin. He’s swaying at the bar, a pint of Bass in one hand and a pair wings in the other. They look OK, although neither of us mention the small fact that they’re still connected to the sawn off stumps of their brackets.
10:10pm - back in the garage with 12 units of alcohol sloshing about my empty stomach. I rest the wings on top of the tyres for a trial fit. Sit in the Tomcat to see what they look like and agree they look the business.
11:30pm - wake up cold and hungry in the Tomcat’s driver seat.
11:45pm - decide to give up smoking tomorrow. Go to bed with cheese and onion bap and the latest edition of Land Rover World. Fall asleep realising the smoking engine is God’s way of telling me it will have to go.
Have a dream about the Tomcats’s fuel tank exploding and vaporising the mother-in-law.

Saturday 6^th March
Tomcat corner weight: have decided to dismantle each side of the car and weigh the parts separately on a set of butchers scales – realise that I need aluminium uprights. Went on the NORC site to ask about diff ratios. I got one semi-sensible reply before they started arguing about which is the best curry house in somewhere called Bradford.
12:30pm – wife comes home and starts complaining about all the over-time she has to work. I sit and listen indulgently as she rants about the amount of our income that’s going on the Tomcats’s rebuild. I try to calm her by saying that £3750 for a 250bhp engine really is good value. Finally, I manage to convince her that this will be the last money I’ll need to spend and we really can still go to Florida this year – if I win the lottery.
14:10pm – back in the garage. Have a close look at the wings I’ve fitted and realise they’re from a Tornado. Start to worry in case the Tomcat rejects them like a transplanted liver.
14:30pm – after telling the QT Services boys never to phone me at home, the wife takes a call from the part shop saying my 4 alloy uprights are ready for collection. She asks them the price and faints.
4:30pm – pop down the chip shop. While I’m out the Radius arms and Shock mounts I ordered a month ago arrive. Find them neatly stacked in the hall and the wife in the back garden dancing around a flaming pile of my parts catalogues. I give her 20mgs of Valium and put the poor woman to bed.
8:30am - Grease Gun and Spanner came around to help lift off the Tomcats’s rear body tub. For reasons unknown we ended up watching a video of Ground Force. Make a mental note: 2 cases of Bud do not assist car rebuilding.
11:40pm – decide to give up smoking tomorrow. Go to bed and fall asleep reading a Demon Thieves catalogue I found under the sofa.
Have a dream about the mother-in-law bleeding to death after the Tomcats’s screen shatters and a shard of glass slits her jugular.

Thursday 11^th March
Tomcat corner weight: According to the calculations I’ve scribbled on my Rothmans packet, each corner of the Tomcat weights 380(ish)kg; which would give a total of 1520kg for the whole car. Is this good or bad? Log onto to the NORC forum to ask and get side-tracked by a thread comparing Pamela Anderson’s “Bay Watch” breasts to those of Gwyneth Paltrow in “Shakespeare In Love”. I wasn’t in the mood to enter into such frivolous, puerile speculation, besides pre-sag Shirley Bassey would have out-perted the lot of them.
10:15am - collect the wife from the weekly appointment with her counsellor. She slides into the Disco, glances at the tangled spaghetti that is the Tomcats’s new loom on the rear seat and pretends it isn’t there. Counselling must be working, but I still decide now’s not the right time to tell her I’ve cancelled our Florida holiday because it clashes with Manby. I’ll explain after she’s taken her afternoon Seroxat.
11.05am - In the garage. Drape new loom over the Tomcat and try to decipher the single sheet of A4 masquerading as a wiring diagram. Spanner will be around soon so I temporarily hide the loom in the tumble drier in case he mistakenly thinks I don’t know a fuse from a futon.
11:30am – the wife finds me in sitting on the toilet pouring over a Rimmer Bros. Performance Catalogue. Blushing furiously I protest my innocence and say the paperboy mistakenly delivered it instead of my usual Fiesta, she just whimpers and walks out.
12:10am – meet up with Spanner and Grease Gun in the Bishop’s Finger for a quick aperitif before we drive to Vulcan Engineering in London to collect my spanking, rebuilt V8. I’ve been assured the engine will now produce 250bhp. Spanner reckons that’s 250 at the wheel and Grease Gun argues for it being a crank measurement. Me? I just wish I knew what the #### they were talking about. I measure engine performance by how much it costs, and for what Vulcan are charging me the bloody thing ought to give Michael Schumacher wet dreams.
3:45pm – we stagger out of the Bishop’s and drive to London only to discover the Vulcan is on its half day closing. Bugger! Nothing for it, so we retire to the nearest pub for a pow-wow.
5am – wake up in the back seat of Spanner’s Allegro with a crick in my neck and the sound of loud snoring from my 2 mates in the front. Try to remember who I am and where I am. Give up and fall back to sleep.
Dream of the Tomcats’s fan belt breaking, flying off, and garrotting the mother-in-law.

Friday 12^th March
8:30am – woken up by tapping on window, look up to see a rat faced youngster masquerading as a traffic warden. He orders us to move out of the bus lane within 30 seconds or he’ll book and tow our car before we can say, Hitler youth. As it happens, Grease Gun manages to name most of the Germany war cabinet before Spanner finally coaxes the asthmatic Allegro into spluttering life.
9:15 – Ye Olde Balti Café. Our full-English breakfast looks like it’s having a cultural crisis. The black-pudding is burnt Argentinean Spam and the “fried-bread” is an American waffle spread thick with Irish lard. Nevertheless we tuck in and a few moments later sit back and belch loudly just so the effeminate Londoners remember we’re real ferret-loving Northerners. Outside, we pass round the Rennie and go in search of my engine.
10:20 – double-parking in front of the Vulcan shop, which looks uncannily like a newsagents, we saunter inside like men who know their mechanical onions. Picking Spam out of his teeth with a feeler gauge, Spanner giggles and asks the bored looking counter man if we can speak to Mr. Spock. To his credit, the guy pretends it’s the first time he’s heard that particularly witticism today. Grease Gun saunters over to a display engine and expresses his amazement at how small Chevy engines are these days. Before the Mr. Vulcan can point out it’s a Pinto I shove my receipt in his face and demand my V8. He grunts once and disappears into the bowels of the shop to reappear a few moments later with my achingly gorgeous engine on a hoist. Forgetting I’m a hard Northerner, I scream like a teeny-bopper and throw myself on the V8, smothering its beautiful acid-dipped block in kisses and hugs. Once the wife sees this she’ll be glad I didn’t waste our savings on that conservatory she’s always wanted. Ignoring my histrionics Mr. Vulcan asks where we’ve parked the van. Blushing, we point to the Allegro.
11:45 – after much huffing, puffing and fluent cussing we finally manage to shoe-horn the gleaming V8 into the Allegro’s boot, tie the lid down as best we can and head for Oxford. I now feel like a man on a mission and vow to have the Tomcat back on the road by the weekend.
12:35 – somewhere on the M40. A flashing blue light brings us to a halt on the hard shoulder. Spanner tucks his half-pint whiskey bottle under the seat and waits for the inevitable. The traffic cop, looking unnervingly like Danny LaRue and talking like Elma Fudd, taps the off-side window. To give myself a possible plea bargaining position I’m just about to blurt out that Spanner’s pissed when the cop’s face lights up. He’s an enthusiastic Robin Hood owner and tells us he’s seen many Volkswagen’s rebodied as beach-buggies but this is the first one he’s seen rebodied as a V8 Allegro. Eventually he lets us on our way, but not before he’s whipped out a disposable camera and whacked off a few pictures of our rear-engined car for his mates in the Hood.
2:15pm – creep in the house to find a note written in the wife’s now familiar shaky hand sitting on the kitchen table:

Burt, I’ve gone to my mothers for a few days before I do something silly. There’s food in the fridge and if you want clean clothes you’ll find them stuck to the inside of the tumble drier
Mary XXX
Ps. The man from Tomcat Motorsport called to say your bonnet is ready for collection.

2:30pm – call Tomcat to re-order loom then call wife. In-between sobs she asks me why I can’t be like other husbands who build rockeries and mow the lawn. Not an easy question to answer so I ignore it and ask if she by chance came across the alternator I’d been storing in the airing cupboard.
10:45pm – in the garage. For 6 hours we have been trying to coax the V8 out of the Allegro’s boot. It’s stuck fast and no amount of persuasion will alter that fact. I refuse to let Spanner take his car away and he refuses to leave it in case I tear it apart to get at my engine. Bastard could always read me like a book. Eventually we compromise. He takes the Allegro home and I go with him to keep an eye on the engine until the morning when we can hire a proper hoist.
11:45pm – for the second night I find myself sleeping in the back of the Allegro reading an MPS catalogue by the dash board light. Decide to give up smoking tomorrow.
Dream the Tomcat falls off it’s axle stands and crushes both of mother-in-law’s legs.

Mudflaps

colin brindley

Thanks Peter.

Regards Colin

Mudflaps

peter urwin

re mud flap regulations can be found on page 254, 2010 blue book para 57.5.2

any problems give me a ring

peter urwin

Mudflaps

colin brindley

I cant find regulations on mud flaps. Does anyone know what dimensions/Spec they should be.

Cheers

Easter Comp invite

Michelle Hall

Had this sent through. Some may be interested.

From: hazel carman

To: Isobel Siewruk-Smith

Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:46 PM

Subject: Open Comp Safari - 4 - 5 April

Hi there - I wondered if you could pass on the invitation to our open comp safari over the Easter Weekend at Oswestry. We have a night / day comp on Sunday evening and Monday day, any NORC members and their friends will be very welcome x

A warm invitation to all competitors and friends for Lancashire and Cheshire's Easter event 2010. As in previous years the event will be held at Nant Mawr Quarry near Oswestry from Thursday 1st April to Monday 5th April.

Please find attached the booking form - closing date is March 26th for pre booking. Any additional competitors on the day will be subject to an additional £5 charge (assuming there are available places)

Please do return the booking form as soon as you are able to. SR's will be available shortly on the website. Do let us know if you have any queries. You bring your friends and we'll bring some sunshine!

All the best,

Lancashire and Cheshire LROC

Booking form below

~/Files/file/LROCEasterBookingForm2010.pdf

Membership Cards

Michelle Hall

I will be bringing all 2010 membership cards to the first event at Wickenby. These can be picked up at the timing wagon on the Saturday morning. If you don't attend Wickenby I will post it out to you after the event.

Memberships can be paid for on the Saturday morning, although it would be better if they were posted beforehand.

disco 2 radius arms

andy morrison

Has anyone got a pair of straight standard disco 2 front radius arms?

Can pick up in the Yorkshire area

Please call 07769 708 375

new MSA recommendation

steve wells

saw this and thought i ought to post it from the MSA i think it is cat litter or very similar

(J) 5.20.13. It is strongly recommended for all competitors participating in single venue competitions to have available at their paddock base, and for multi venue competitions to carry within their vehicle a self contained spill kit capable of effectively absorbing minor spillages of up to 1.5 litres of all vehicle fluids – oils, fuels, coolants, battery acid. Used spill kits are to be disposed of in accordance with local or National guidelines.

Product details; Manufactured from hydrophobic polypropylene.

•    Absorbs only hydrocarbons    •    Repels water
•    Absorbs oil on both land and water    •    Unaffected by temperature
•    Will not sink even when fully saturated    •    Capacity: 1 litre per pad

buggy for sale

paul heaton

for sale 100 inch racer with 4.2 v8 auto fitted engine well back

runs and drives fine very fit lump. tank and rad in back etc

twin shocks new tyres 2 races ago last raced in sept last year ideal first car

call paul to view on 07977553141 or 01226 711588 any time .email maxine32@fsmail.net for pics

£3500

King Special Offer

Michelle Hall

King Off Road

Specialising in Fedima Off Road Tyres, King Shocks, Heavy Duty Polybushes & Steering Quickeners

FEDIMA EXTREME

205x16, 235/70x16, 750x16, 235/85x16

Excellent Off Road Tyre performs well in muddy conditions with self cleaning directional pattern. Strong side walls, Fedima quality compound out lasts other makes, big bead protector. Forget the rest fit the best! RAC MSA Approved Tyre

UK Main Agents for King Shocks

Parts & Rebuilds

2.0/2.5/3.0 Coil Over, Non Coil Over, Internal By Pass, Piggy Back

For friendly advice give us a call.

Call Tel: 01352 715878 or 0790 5469864 or 07717794700

www.kingoffroad.co.uk

Email: enquiries@kingoffroad.co.uk

Tyre info required

steve wells

i promised to put something of fact on here tonight regarding much confusion among some drivers regarding tyres I have had a word with the chairman and here are the results

You can use any tyre in 2010 that is on the MSA list, these can be either Aggresive, Mud terrain or All Terrain If you dont get your monies worth out of your Diamonds etc. this year they should sell to the trial fraturnity who will still be using them in 2011 BUT WE WONT BE USING THEM IN 2011

IN 2011 ALL AGRESSIVE TYRES WILL BE BANNED

The senarios i was asked today -- yes you can buy agressive and use them this year.

No one will fail scrutineering if they have a set of tyres from the 2010 tyres list issued by the MSA on disc and Blue book

(There will be a couple of others that are not on the list such as Amazon which is identical to the Insa Turbo Sahara this is going through the MSA channels at the moment) I will post the results on here as soon as i receive the decision from the MSA

I have seen mud clearer than this but hope you can see through the clouds

Tyre info required

steve wells

King off road has the Fedima Flatdog has Marix Panther AT i am sure both will be favourable to club members

Tyre info required

colin brindley

Has anyone found any on the "6a AT list" tyres at a decent price. Im struggling to find any. Preferred are Insa Turbo Rangers, or Kingpin Technic Trackers. Both are similar to BF Goodrich ATs.

Someone must have a good supplier somewhere.

Thanks Colin

2010 Championship

Jon wilson

Can all those whom wish to enter the championship please try to get their forms to me by the 20th March.

I will be at Wickenby on the Saturday morning to hand out numbers to members etc but would rather have everyones paperwork before, rather than trying to sign you on the comp AND sort out your championship!

I will be floating around the timing wagon in a gray or black discovery if you need to find me, mob is 07710 524271

Cheers

JON

Range Rover or a 3.5 engine, LT77 and bits!

Ted Leahy

Does any one fancy a project?

May-be your just after a good 3.5 V8 and LT77 gearbox thats done less than 5,000 miles with non leaking powersteering box and a couple of spare diffs all clumped together to look like a Range Rover!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140383661962&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

Check out the e-bay link or search item number 140383661962

Cheers Ted

www.ted-offroad.com

Warrior Independant

Spencer Hall

It's Sold

manton comp

simon kirk

Hi all at norc , lincs l'r have got there first comp event on at manton quarry (next to kirton) so stop polishing ur motors and lets see wot they can do.!!!!!!!!!!!. if anymore info needed look on are web page or give me a ring sam 07795074313.

2010 Membership

Michelle Hall

Can anyone wanting to become a member or renew their memberships for this year please print off the forms on the 'DOCS' page and send them in, together with a cheque ASAP. Thanks.

100" Land Rover Based Racer

Mark Shaw

Still for sale now fully prept, new spec muflaps, all new fluids and filters just drive it to the start line

100” Comp Safari Racer still for sale

Built approx 5 years ago by Steve Mitchell he raced it for 2 seasons winning class both years and finishing in top 10 both years with AWDC, then it was bought by Alisport for some further enhancements before coming to me, I raced my first full season in it in 08 winning NORC B4 class and coming 7th overall, Also won the 2009 Diesel Class.

This racer is as good as they get as far as reliability goes, it has finished every event it has started both in my hands and Steve Mitchells.

Car had a 5 page feature in Feb 08 Land rover owner’s magazine following the work Alisport did on it, copy supplied to and purchaser.

Specification

Frame

Based on a tomcat design and made from Blue band steel chassis is off a Disco and in mint condition no rust at all, has a Tomcat fibreglass bonnet, 90 wings and the rest of the panels are flat ali sheet.

Engine

200tdi replacement low millage block fitted before start of 09 season, Nissan GTR turbo, ported and polished heads (heads and valves refurbished before start of 09 season), pump turned up and wastegate repositioned, boosted to 18psi (has in cab gauge) still plenty to go if you want it alot of 200’s are running much higher boost and much more smoke!!!

Suspension

2.5 inch remote res foxes all round, heavy duty springs, cranked radius arms front and rear with adjustable panhard on rear, Heavy duty track rod and steering bars.

Transmission

R380 gearbox, 5 races old brand new 24spline 4 pin diff in front, 24 spine welded diff in rear, both axels strengthened (Rear replaced with a new Tomcat modified axel winter of 08/09) Both have diff pan gaurd’s, had new Clutch kit and slave cylinder fitted 2 race ago.

Other

Has massive allisport intercooler and Allisport radiator in front, 1.5 ratio steering quickener, dry cell battery, registered as tax exempt, No MOT but should go straight through if required, braided front brake lines, new brake master cylinder, all required items to pass scrutineering, 5 point harnesses, fire extingushers, air horn passenger controls etc

Come and have a look it’s at Elland West Yorkshire, will be racing with NORC again in 2010 if it doesn’t sell , I will be buying a replacement so may consider part exchange or just give me a call on 07979 568317

£5995

newbie

Jon wilson

Anything off group (A) or group(B) by the end of this year for next year.

Diamond or group (C) aggressive - only part warns to scrub off this year.

List V(a) ALL TERRAIN
Appollo Storm
Aurora RF 05
Avon Ranger AT
BF Goodrich All Terrain
BF Goodrich AT KO
BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A
Blue Streak Treva Radial AT
Bridgestone AT
Bridgestone AT 693
Bridgestone Dueller A/T 694
Bronco Grip Edge
Colway C-Trax All Terrain
Cooper Discoverer ATR
Cooper ST
Cooper AT
Continental ContiCrossContact AT
Dick Cepek Radial F-C II
Dunlop Grandtrek AT2
Dunlop Grandtrek TG4
Dunlop Qualifier TG20
Dunlop Grandtrek TG30
Dunlop Road Gripper F
Dunlop Trak-RV
Enduro AT
LFalken LA/AT
Federal MS 351 A/T
Fedima Rally Tyre
Firestone Destination AT
Fulda Tramp 4x4 Mix
Fulda Multitrac 4x4
General Grabber All Terrain
General Grabber AT2
General SAG Radial
Goodyear G82
Goodyear G90 (all terrain)
Goodyear Wrangle AT/R
Goodyear Wrangle AT/S
Goodyear Workhouse Extra Grip
GT Radial Savero A/T
Hercules Durango AT
Hercules Terra Trac AW
Hercules Terra Trac AT
Insa Turbo Mountain AT
Insa Turbo Ranger AT
Interco TSL / Thornbird
Interco VorTrac
Kelly Safari DTR
Kingpin Advantage M&S
Kingpin Technic Tracker
Kirov K-153
Kumho KL41
Kumho 822
Kumho 825
Kumho KL78 AT
Lassa Competus
Marix Ecoland
Marshal AT
Marshal Road Venture AT KL78
Mastercraft Courser CT
Mastercraft Courser Radial
Mastercraft AT2
Mastercraft AT
Mastercraft AWT
Matador MP 71 – Izzarda 4x4
Matador MP76 Bogatyre
Maxsport INVADOR
Maxxis MA 751 Bravo
Mickey Thompson BAJA ATZ PLUS RADIAL
Mickey Thompson BAJA ATZ RADIAL
Mickey Thompson Belted HP
Mickey Thompson ATZ
Mickey Thompson ATZ SLT
Michelin AT
Michelin XCL (AT)
Michelin XZY (all terrain)
Mitas CT-06
Nankang N830 Wide Conqurer
Nankang N-889
Nexen (Roadstone) Radial A/T 4x4
Nitto Tire Dune Grappler
Nitto Tire Terra Grappler
Pirelli Scorpion A/T
Pro Comp All Terrain
Pro Comp XTreme A/T
Remington Wide Brute XT
Sportway AT+
Starfire Durango XTR
Starfire Durango AT
Sumito Serengeti A/T SL850
Technic Tracker II A/T
Toyo Open Country AT
Uniroyal Laredo AWT
Yokohamo Geolander GOO1 MT
Yokohama Geolander GO11 A/T+II
Yokohama Geolander GO12 AT

List V(B) MUD TERRAIN
Tyres in List V(a) and the following:
BF Goodrich Mud Terrain MT KM
Bronco RoughRider
Colway C-Trax Mud Terrain
Colway Greenway Chaco
Colway Greenway Macho
Cooper Discoverer STT(MT)
Dick Cepek Crusher
Dick Cepek Mud Country
Dunlop Grandtrek MT2
Fedima Extreme
Fedima MT
Fedima Partner
Firestone SAT
General Grabber Mud Terrain
Goodride CR857 MT
GoodYear Wrangler MT/R
Hankook RT01 M/T
Hankook RT03
Hercules HDT
Insa Turbo SAHARA MT
Insa Turbo Dakar MT
Interco Ground Hawg Bias
Interco Ground Hawg Radial
Interco Narrow Super Swamper (SS)
Interco SS M16
Interco SSR
Interco Super Swamper
Interco TrXus MT/STS
IntercoTSL Radial
IntercoTSL/SX
Kingpin KMTR Mud Terrain
Kirov K-151
Kumho 834
Kumho KL71 MT
Lassa LT A
Marshal Road Venture MT 834
Matador MP 75 – Wissentta
Maxsport Mud Plugga
Mastercraft MT
Maxxis M8060 Trepador
Maxxis MT754 Buckstot Mudder
Merit All Country MT
Mickey Thompson BAJA MTZ Radial
Michelin XZL (mud terrain)
Mud Country Remoulds
Nitto Mud Grappler
Pirelli Scorpion Mud
Pro Comp Mud Terrain
Pro Comp X Terrain
Pro Comp XTreme Mud Terrain
Simex Jungle Trekker
Sportway MT+
Toyo Transpath MT
Uniroyal Laredo HD-T

Any of the above willl be fine.

By next year we hope to be running only these along with all the other MSA clubs

newbie

andy morrison

Thanks Jon for sending me the forms!

I'm looking at what seems to be the touchy subject of tyres!

Could some of you give me an idea of what you’re using this year so I don't go and by some random set that are rubbish!

Cheers

Andy

newbie

Jon wilson

If you email me at : photographers@jmjphotography.co.uk

I can forward you the 2010 forms.

Cheers & look forward to seeing you at an event

Jon

newbie

andy morrison

Hi,

I'm after some info on how to go about joining NORC? I’m intending to compete in the comp safari rounds that I can make it to this year! if I get my car ready!!!!

The Doc's page has not got the membership form loaded up yet, I’ve tried to email the Membership Sec but the site link keeps failing to deliver.

If you could point me in the right direction or help in anyway I’ll be very grateful.

Cheers

Andy.

north ormsby comp

simon kirk

hi all at norc just to say if any one wos going this Sunday please ring before you set of thanks. sam 07795074313 lincs lrc

100" Land Rover Based Racer

Mark Shaw

Frame

£5995

Driver profile page updated

Spencer Hall

test

Driver profile page updated

Spencer Hall

Managed o get the driver profile page working right, just took abit of time.

Feed back appreaciated.

Thanks

Spencer

AGM - TONIGHT

Michelle Hall

Don't forget the AGM tonight at the Rock & Heifer, Thornton, Bradford at 8pm. It's really important that club members attend, as the committee needs your input to make it a good club for it's members.

Dinner Dance tickets will be on sale during the AGM (See me) - there is limited numbers so get in there quick, and there'll also be the NORC Club Shop for anyone wanting to buy fleeces, t-shirts etc. Could make an ideal Christmas present for someone.

Trophy winners from last year, can you please get the trophies back to us asap. Thanks.

Hope to see you all there.

Trophys

colin brindley

If anyone is going to the AGM in December and lives near Sheffield, Rotherham or Worksop could they contact me as I need to return my trophy .

I would be would be very gratefull if anyone could take it for me as Im working in Spain till mid December. I can drop it off at your home.

Thanks Colin

DISCOVERY INTERNAL ROLL CAGE

Philip Elliott

DISCOVERY INTERNAL ROLLCAGE, PREVIOUSLY FITTED IN A SERIES II TD5 DISCOVERY. WILL FIT 300TDI SO I'M TOLD. TORNADO MOTORSPORT FABRICATED, BUILT TO MEET MSA SPEC.

£500 ONO

EMAIL FOR PHOTO'S pdelliott@hotmail.co.uk

matt sagar

Here is the 2010 calendar.

March 28 Wickenby

April 25 Stainby

May 29-31 Baden Hall (David Simmonite Memorial with AWDC)

June 27 Loversall SS

July 25 Gainsthorpe (Nth Lincs) (new site)

Aug 28-30 Manby (part of Land Rover show, not 100 miles)

Sept 18/19 Sweetlamb (AWDC/BCCC)

Oct TBC 10 or 24 Driffield (BCCC)

2010 Race Calendar

Michelle Hall

The 2010 calendar is now on the events page.

So whos won.

Michael McInnes

I think the results are on the championship page on taskbar above.

So whos won.

colin brindley

Do we have the final results for the Championship and whos won what class.

2008 CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES BACK PLEASE

Mark Shaw

colin brindley wrote:

If any member of the committee is going to the Lincolnshire landrover clubs Malachi Event in Wickenby next weekend please let me know as I can Take my trophy there.

Thanks Colin Brindley

I can do the same if anybody is going

Mark

2008 CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES BACK PLEASE

Ben Middleton

Hi,

Will bring the trophy back to the AGM in December.

Ben

2008 CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES BACK PLEASE

colin brindley

If any member of the committee is going to the Lincolnshire landrover clubs Malachi Event in Wickenby next weekend please let me know as I can Take my trophy there.

Thanks Colin Brindley

2008 CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES BACK PLEASE

Michelle Hall

Can anyone with a 2008 championship trophy, received at last year's dinner dance, please get them back to us before or at the AGM 4th December. Can anyone that knows Ian Hough and Ben Middleton get this message to them, as I don't have an email address for them. Thanks.

4 pin diff

colin brindley

wanted 4 pin diff. for landrover.

Ex Works KAP Bandit

Peter Wood

Rear engined 2.9 V6 Cosworth on Motec M4 ECU, (mapped by Richard Bulmer at Tracktive Solutions) on Tony Law exhaust. Large aluminium radiator with twin fans, aluminium pipes & Samco connectors, braided hoses throughout. Castor corrected front axle, Zeus pistons in front callipers & vented disks, Truetrac torque biasing diffs front & rear with lightened radius arms & TD5 bushes. Propshaft Clinic race spec shafts throughout with Milner reverse rotation transfer box and centre bearing. 14” 2.5 Coil over Fox shocks with remote reservoirs. Corbeau light weight race seats with Luke 6 point harnesses, race steering wheel & quick ratio heavy duty Adwest steering box, WRC spec alloy pedal box with hydraulic clutch, purpose made competition fuel tank with twin pumps & fuel pressure gauge. Full GRP body including wings, bonnet, rear tub & doors. Loads of overall results and class wins including1^st in class & 3^rd overall BCCC Trophy 2008 & 1^st in class NORC Manby100 2009. Lots of spares incl diff, shafts, calipers & alternator, on Diamonds with a set of A/T’s for BCCC.

Very light competitive motor, maintained by ex-Prodrive mechanic since purchase 3 years ago using synthetic oils etc, ready to race, bargain at £9000.

Peter (Teesside) 01740 631437

106inch spceframe racer

sam snowden

sold :-)

Land Rover Defender 90 TDI Racer

Ted Leahy

Hi,

Reluctant sale of my TDI Defender Racer. Complete with Dan Evans Roll Cage, Fox shox's, R380 Gear box & tuned TDI. This motor is really fast & has been very reliable. £3600 - Ready to race!

Pictures can be seen here:- http://www.ted-offroad.com/For-Sale

Please call Dick on 07872950562

Steering quickener

Jonathan Barker

Coleman 2:1 ratio steering quickener. New, never been fitted.

Same as item number 300232803407 on ebay. The only difference is mine is a 2:1 ratio ( and a lot cheaper!)

I can post it or can bring it with me to Whitworth.

Open to any sensible offers, call Jonathan on 07821537830

auto box for sale

sam snowden

3 speed auto box,

art carr manual shift works fine,

taken out to put manual box in,

sensible offers

ring anytime on 07837855707

auto box for sale

sam snowden

3 speed auto box,

art carr manual shift works fine,

taken out to put manual box in,

sensible offers

ring anytime on 07837855707

auto box for sale

sam snowden

3 speed auto box,

art carr manual shift works fine,

taken out to put manual box in,

sensible offers

ring anytime on 07837855707

2010 Spec Helmets BS6658-1985 Typre A/FR

I know of some good BS6658-1985 Typre A/FR (Red Sticker) helmets for sale at £90 each and will have some at Newstead this weekend if anyone is interested and wants to look at them. Their stocks are getting low as so many people are after them and they now only have peaked helmets left. These are full faced helmets, but with peaks instead of visors.

If you are interested, either pop along to Newstead this weekend (10/11 Oct) and find Ken Powell or Jonathan Stevenson or phone us on 07812976464 (Ken) or 07885 998144 (Jonathan).

Cheers!

2010 regualtions

Hi,

If you are interested, either pop along to Newstead this weekend (10/11 Oct) and find Ken Powell or Jonathan Stevenson or phone us on 07812976464 (Ken) or 07885 998144 (Jonathan).

Cheers!

2010 regualtions

peter urwin

REMEMBER FOR 2010

If you have a helmet with a blue BS sticker, B S6658-85 Type A. it MUST be replaced next year as they are no longer valid for use in MSA events.

Mud flaps must be fitted as per C 302 page 259 (print in red) msa blue book.

Tyres, if you are intending to use your "AGGRESIVE" tyres up in 2010 remember they must be from the MSA tyre list V. If BUYING NEW TYRES for next year make sure they are also on the MSA list. AS FROM 2011 NORC WILL BE USING TYRES FROM MSA LIST V (17A & 17B)

FAILURE TO DO ANY OF THE ABOVE WILL RESULT THE THE SCRUTINEER TELLING YOU CANNOT COMPETE.

please ring if you have any Queries

Quaiffe Diff For Sale

matt sagar

For sale 1 quaiffe torque bias diff, complete ready to throw in, built into land rover casing with "pegged" crown wheel conversion, standard 300tdi 90 ratio, suitable for front or rear axle please note these are 19 spline and a 24 spline shaft will not go in (thats from experience!!!!)

£150 .00

Also Quaiffe short shaft to suit with big end cap £45.00

Long shaft, aerospec 19 spline diff end, 24 spline standard end cap, ideal as spare £40.00

Quaiffe big end cap (if you get another Quaiffe shaft) £10.00 or will throw it in if someone buys the lot

Rear axle casing, turned for rear engine motor, big strong diff pan extra oil capacity, strengthened without being too heavy, mounts for TD5 rear arms. Very slight bend but shafts still go in OK £40.00

MATT 07721 997547

Crash helmets

Peter Widdop

They have got rid of the Blue british sticker at the end of 2009, with an aim to getting rid of helmets that have been around longer than me probably!! I've spoken to Pete Urwin and the red british sticker is still an acceptable standard.

Crash helmets

Rob Carter

I thought they had stopped using the BS numbers on the newer helmets?

Crash helmets

The best spec to get is BS6658 1985 Type A/FR (red sticker).

Crash helmets

Rob Carter

Can anyone tell me what are the crash helmet requirements at the moment ? It used to be a BS number back in my day but i thought i read that it had all changed.Also are there any alterations on the specs for next year?

Many Thanks

Rob Carter.

Mud Terrain Tyre advice

Ted Leahy

I am looking at getting a set of MT's for my TD5 Discovery. Has any one any experience of either BFGoodrich or Wrangler Goodyear MTR's? Road manners/Noise/wear?

Cheers

Ted

2010 TYRES

matt sagar

Following the last commitee meeting, it has been decided to allow people to run off their Diamonds etc through the year, once you have used up your stocks, including all the green ones behind the shed, DONT BUY ANYMORE!!!!

We will then be using tyres from the All Terrain and Mud Terrain MSA lists.

The commitee feel this is the fairest way of changing the allowed tyres, in these hard times no one wants to have to just go out and buy a new set of tyres, natural transition is easier for all.

If you are at a stage now where you will need tyres for next year buy MUD TERRAINS do not buy diamonds and think "its OK I can use them next year", we are trying to help people out here.

BOWLER TOMCAT 100"

ian Jones

HI WELCOME TO THE SALE OF MY 100"WHITE BOWLER TOMCAT BASED ON A RANGE ROVER CHASSIS WITH A 3.5 V8 EFI THATS BEEN CHIPPED
4 SPEED SANTANA GEAR BOX MATED TO A DEFENDER V8 TRANSFER BOX
RANGE ROVER STRENGTHENED AXLES WITH 2 PIN DIFFS (not sure what the diffs are off)
RR PROP SHAFTS
TOMCAT SPRINGS
ADJUSTABLE FRONT KING SHOCKS
TWIN SHOCKS ON THE REAR
KINGS/FOXES TOMCAT QUICK STEERING BOX (£750)
REMOVABLE STEERING WHEEL
6 POINT HARNESSES
BUCKET SEATS
INTERCOM
REMOVABLE DOORS
HEATED WINDSCREEN WITH TIMER
MICRO DYNAMICS REV LIMITER
2 DAVIES CRAIG WATER PUMPS (£130 each) ONE HAS A SLIGHT LEAK THE OTHER IS SPOT ON (THESE ARE INCLUDED AS SPARES AS THEY WERE TAKEN OFF EARLIER THIS YEAR
DIGITAL CONTROLLER (£110)
RED TOP RACING BATTERY FROM TOMCAT
POWER WASHERS
FIRE EXTINGUISHER
DOOR NETS
RADIATOR ENCLOSED IN THE BACK
TWO SETS OF KENLOW FANS
ALUMINIUM FUEL TANK
THE REGISTRATION DOCUMENT IS PRESENT AND AT ONE TIME IT WAS ON THE ROAD AS THERE IS A 2006 TAX DISC AND MOT CERT WITH THE TOMCAT - IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH TO MAKE IT ROAD LEGAL THE CHASSIS NUMBER IS STAMPED ON THE O/S FRONT PART OF THE CHASSIS AND ON THE BULK HEADI BOUGHT THE TOMCAT AT THE END OF 2007 AND IT HAD NEVER BEEN RACED SO I JOINED NORC (Northern Off Road Club) AND LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME ME AND THE TOMCAT COMPETED AND WON MY CLASS
IT'S AN AWESOME PIECE OF KIT AND IF YOU LIKE THE SOUND OF A V8 YOU WILL LOVE THIS ONE
ONE OR TWO MARKS ON THE FIBREGLASS BODY WORK
IT COMES WITH A FEW SPARES IT HAS TO GO AS I'M LOOKING TO BUY A NEW HOUSE - VIEWING IS RECOMMENDED HAVING TROUBLE WITH DOWNLOADING PHOTOS EMAIL ME AND WILL SEND YOU PHOTOS

Please contact Ian on 07515 527257

I also have a Horse Box with living accommodation for sale that i have used to transport the Tomcat around to different race meetings if your interested i can Email photos

mercedes transporter

nik ward

For Sale is my Mercedes 814 recovery truck/transporter. It is a rare double sleeper cab with night heater. I got the truck 7 years ago and it has had very light use ever since to an from races. before me it was owned by Midgely Motors in Skipton and used for collecting 4x4s.
It was completely refurbished 4 years ago with re-spray and new beaver tail body etc.

It has side lockers, winch, bluetooth phone, alloy ramps, work lights, trailer and caravan electrics.
I have not raced for a couple of years now and is just not bieng used enough, it is showing some rust through on the cab, and the drivers seat has split, has tax and 12 months test. £3999

07785 550556 or nik@newards.com

Mercedes Transporter

nik ward

For Sale is my Mercedes 814 recovery truck/transporter. It is a rare double sleeper cab with night heater. I got the truck 7 years ago and it has had very light use ever since only to and from races. before me it was owned by Midgely Motors in Skipton and used for collecting 4x4s.
It was completely refurbished 4 years ago with re-spray and new beaver tail body etc.

It has side lockers, winch, bluetooth phone, alloy ramps, work lights, trailer and caravan electrics.
I have not raced for a couple of years now and is just not bieng used enough, it is showing some rust through on the cab, and the drivers seat has split, has tax and 12months test
£3999

07785 550556 or nik@newards.com

Tyre list

Jon wilson

From my understanding.....

'WE' as a club will allow any tyre from any of the lists, to race on.

BUT, if 'WE' as a club race with another club, for example AWDC, and they have said list 'a' only, then you can't play unless you swap tyres. or a specific landowner says no to list'c' then you can only play on tyres off 'a' or 'b'...

Presume if you are only racing at norc a few races a year, then no reason not to run on list 'c' tyres, but if you have higher aspirations, then you need either several sets of tyres, or buy off list 'b' and hope that opens up your racing options.

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Whitbread 88" Racer 2007

Mitchell Smith

Whitbread Comp Safari Racer/ Trialer 2007

Full Whitbread roll cage on 2x Disco front ends

Rear panhard rod

Lt77 5speed

Fox Shocks remote res.

MotorDrive seats

Full TRS harness (5pt drivers)

2x Extinguishers

Whitbread fuel tank

Electric cut out

Window nets

Snorkel

Washer pipe mounted across the top of screen to allow better cleaning

Passenger controls for horn washers and wipers

Used for 2 trials and 3 comps

1x spare wheel/tyre

Selling because I’m going to Uni in September

To be sold less engine although it is available for an extra price Rover 3.5Efi

Car/ Plant trailer
also available on separate negotiation.

Indespension AD2800 3.5t - four wheel

New bed

1 brand new wheel/tyre and brand new spare never used
braked, pin type hitch

Walsall, West Midlands

Mark 07891377278 / 01922 418675 smith.mark1@vrigin.net

Tyre list

Mark Shaw

Most of my tyres are getting towards knackered now, and if its wet at Newstead wouldn't get me round, I have looked at the list below and there are 3 sections Aggresive/Mud/AT which list are we using next year, don't want to waste my money on something that will be no good next year.

100" Racer for sale end of NORC 09 season

Andy West

Mark,

I currently race with the AWDC and i remember steves old car. Just wondering, as i currently race a modified production discovery and im looking at upgrading at the end of this season, how much are you looking for for it?

Many thnaks,

Andy.

07739 943395

100" Racer for sale end of NORC 09 season

Mark Shaw

At the end of the season I will be selling my racer, if you are intersted it will be at the last 3 events but not available until the end of the season.

HIstory is built approx 5 years ago by Steve Mitchell (AWDC Comp Sec) he raced it for 2 seasons winning class both years and finishing in top 10 both years, then it went to Andy at Alisport for some enhancements before comming to me, I raced my first full season in it in 08 winning class and comming 7th overall, this year I am winning class again.

This racer is A1 it has finished ever event it has started both in my hands and Steve Mitchells.

Car had a 5 page feature in Feb 08 Land rover owners magazine following the work Ali sport did on it, copy supplied to and purchaser.

Spec off top of my head is

Engine

200tdi new block fitted before start of this season, nissan GTR turbo, ported and polished heads (heads and valves refurbished before start of 09 season), pump turned up and wastegate repositioned, only boosted to 18psi still plenty to go if you want it.

Suspension

2.5 inch remote res foxes all round, new heavy duty springs, cranked radius arms had new tomcat rear axel fitted winter 09

Transmission

R380 gearbox, 5 races old brand new 24spline 4 pin diff in front, 24 spine welded diff in rear

Other

Has massive allisport intercooler and Allisport radiator in front, 1.5 ratio steering quickener, registered as tax exempt, MOT has just run out but I will get one put on it again if it makes the right money, braded front brake line, new brake master cyminder, all required items to pass scrutineering, 5 point harnesses, fire extingushers etc, just had full respray one event ago

Come and have a look/ ride round (navigate) at one of the remaining NORC events , will be buying a replacement so may consider part exchange or just give me a call on 07979 568317, its car number 7 silver land rover looking car lots of pictures on facebook

200 tdi discovery & 2 Renault clio's for sale

Peter Widdop

200 tdi discovery green on a K plate. Needs work for MOT some welding here and there, some has already been done by previous owner. Brand new discs, pads and calipers to rear. Previous owner fitted a new set of after market springs and shocks. Starts first time every time. Chassis appears to be solid would make an ideal racer project - or for someone to get back on the road! I have used it off road and done about 30 miles in it and it has done well - getting up hills my mate couldn't in his 90!! currently on a SORN.

£700 call for more info.

1998 Renault Clio 1.2 8v. Ideal first car, cheap insurance!! - I have had it since September and done about 10.000 miles in it! 12 months MOT, tax until July 2009. I have replaced Timing Belt kit, water pump, front discs and pads, N/S driveshaft, Shocker top mountings and all 4 tyres.

£700 call for more info.

2000 Renault CLio 1.4 16v Si. Electric windows, PAS, Central locking, Factory alarm and immobiliser, Air con that works! MOT september, Tax November 83000 miles, originale CD player (i have the security code for it), previous owner fitted some fancy speakers to the parcel shelf and front doors - sound good. I bought the car with a misfire, turned out to be a burnt exhaust valve, replaced valve, head gasket set, Timing belt kit, water pump. Some history

£1150 call for more info.

07980 146491.

photography rules msa

Simon Cotton

Jon you are correct if you want to take photos as an official photographer out on the course then you need to sign on the MSA form which can be found in the club truck (this is a condition of the MSA permit). If you are just taking 1 or 2 photos for your own use and have ticked the box on your membership form for the photo permit then you do not need to sign on as a photographer.

4.6 Conrod

colin brindley

Has anyone got a Rover 4.6 conrod in good condition. Just one needed. Mines spun a shell, cranks mint but knackered con rod.

Colin 01909 723402

4.6 Conrod

colin brindley

Has anyone got a Rover 4.6 conrod in good condition. Just one needed. Mines spun a shell, cranks mint but knackered con rod.

Colin 01909 723402

photography rules msa

Jon wilson

Presume if you want to stand in the pits and take a few snaps, then you are not an 'official' photographer,

If you want to go wandering around the course to take pics - for whatever use, profit or otherwise -, then really you should be signing on and wearing a hi-viz jacket???

photography rules msa

Michael McInnes

Thanks for clearing that up simon, i know now that i need to sign on at each event if i wish to take photos.

photography rules msa

Ted Leahy

So does that mean anyone turning up with a camera needs to sign on or just if you are an official photographer?

Cheers

Ted

photography rules msa

Simon Cotton

This issue was brought up at the last committee meeting and it was agreed that photographers do need to sign on at each event as it is a requirement of the MSA permit regarding insurance cover and this is a seperate issue to the child protection photography permit which you ticked on the membership form which is also required by NORC to cover us legally.

photography rules msa

Michael McInnes

Just though i would get an update on the requirements for taking photos at events, I understand from previous years that if you a member and ticked the photo box on application of membership, you are allowed to take photos at events as required by the msa child protection rule. (All those taking photos at events must have their details on record with the child protection officer). My question is, as a member who has a photo permit, does this mean i still have to sign on as a photographer at each event?. I was told originally to join, as it would save me having to find the child protection officer at each event - otherwise i take it there was no point in joining the club (as i dont compete) and therefore just sign on at each event?.

Im just trying to make sure im doing the correct procedure, Thanks.

Land Rover Discovery 300 tdi

Jon wilson

Al will now take offers around £2800 for my motor!

unless anyone wants to buy his 90 4.2 racer?????????

new weller 8 spokes with insa turbo tyres

mark harris

4 NEW WELLER 8 SPOKE WHEELS 16X7 LANDROVER FITMENT WITH INSA TURBO DAKKAR TYRES 206X16 FITTED WITH MICHELIN TUBES, USED FOR MOVING VEHICLE AROUND, ALL NEW COST £400, SELL FOR £250,

CONTACT MARK 07974007405

Land Rover Discovery 300 tdi

Jon wilson

FOR SALE £ 3000 ONO

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 300 TDI 1997 P REG

· 129,000 MILES

· 12 MONTHS MOT 9 MONTHS TAX

· GUARDIAN WINCH BUMPER ( NO WINCH)

· SAUDI SPEC GRILLE

· CLEAR INDICATOR CONVERSION

· UPRATED INTERCOOLER, NEW UPRATED RADIATOR, FUEL PUMP TWEAKED, DECAT PIPE.

· 2”FRONT HD SPRINGS & DECARBON SHOCKS

· 5 DOOR CLOTH TRIM, NO SUNROOF MODEL

· DISCOPARTS ROCK SLIDERS / STEPS

· REAR GWYN LEWIS SUSPENSION KIT FITTED ( NEW)

· WIDE ANGLE REAR PROP, 11” OLD MAN EMU SHOCKS, RELOCATION CONES / HOOKS / SPRING RETAINERS.

· HEAVY DUTY REAR BUMPER

· REAR TANK GUARD WITH REMOVABLE TOW HITCH

· REAR STEP LADDER

· REAR LIGHT GUARDS

· ZU ALLOYS IN ANTHRACITE X4

· PART WARN BFGOODRICH 235/70/16 X4

· REGULARLY SERVICED

· NW CLUTCH 5K AGO

· NEW CYLINDER HEAD 20K AGO

· ALL SILLS AND REAR ARCHES RECENTLY REPLACED AND REWELDED

· BODYWORK REASONABLE FOR AGE.

· ROOF LADDER BARS WITH WAFFLE BOARDS

· SIDE AWNING

For further details contact Jon Wilson ( photographer) on 07710 524271 or photographers@jmjphotography.co.uk

need to sell to fund white 90 racer rebuild!!!

Limited slip diff wanted

Mark Shaw

Looking for a 24 spline detroit locker or LSD quaife diff (or similar), call me if you have one you want to sell 07979 568317

Mark

3.5v8 race engine

Tom Aubrey

I went on this web site sat afternoon and seen an 3.5 engine advertised, Does anybody know if this engine was sold, if not does any body have contact details of seller.

106inch spceframe racer

sam snowden

106 inch wheelbase with disco 2 axle mounts needs some work to finish, wouldnt take long with a donor discovery or similar vehicle.

any questions text or ring me on either07837855707 or 07903833534 as there is to much to list.

p38 manual rangie breaking for spares

william knightley

1996 base model range rover breaking due to engine liner sliding most parts available or offers for the complete thing was running great, air suspension overall 3 years ago. painted rioja red,tints, body not perfect, cloth seats. tel billy 07891377349

Discovery Chassie for sale

Spencer Hall

For sale Discovery 1 chassie, make ideal racer project.

phone for details 0775 1658116

TRUETRAC wanted

colin brindley

Detroit Truetrac wanted for rear, landrover fine spline.

call Dean on 07939223387

fiddle break

thomas wood

hi looking for a fiddle break for a two wheel drive can be hydrolic or cable any will do basicaly please email me with any offers cheers tom

Discovery rear engine diesel racer

wayne mason

Discovery rear engine diesel racer 16^th over all in AWDC championship 2006.

This racer has always turned heads and found interest both on the track and in the pits, lots of people have commented on how well it performs as it looks like a standard discovery until closer inspection.

This racer is based on the two front ends of a Range Rover chassis with a discovery body on top which has had been on a diet making it lighter. The engine is an Isuzu 2.8TD with a TD5 turbo, oil cooler and an Allisport intercooler. The clutch is a V8 helix heavy duty paddle clutch as the standard one would not last one race due to, too much torque from the engine.

The gear box is a standard lt77 box with a reverse linkage to make the gear stick follow the right pattern into a Milner 2wd drive adaptor then into a Milner transfer box running 1.13 ratio. The rear two prop shafts are standard Land Rover props with a Milner joiner in the middle and the front has been made by the propshaft clinic.

The axles are 110 front and the rear is a Range Rover with a torque biased diff. Both have radius arm conversion with Discovery 2 bushes chassis end instead of top hat type bushes all with 12” fox shocks.

The Body work has been race brushed but do have a few extra panels as spares which will come with the car.

As this car is set up for the rough it would make a good XTC car as there is plenty of room to fit winches and the air box is about 1.5m high.

The price is 6250 ono.

matt sagar

Keith, Your quite right, that section is about roll cages which makes it all the more ridiculous, if you get to the segment about the size of tubes required its tagged in at the bottom of that paragraph.

as far as the size for ATVs I dont know, at the end of the day theres not as much to set on fire is there.

Anyone can ring the MSA , they are very approachable and you can get it from the horses mouth.

For £25 are you not better off with the additional amount of extinguishant and possibly putting the fire out and not wrecking thousands of pounds worth of race car??? I have seen fires go almost out and then the extinguisher runs out, its soul destroying watching someone throw dust and dirt on their car as it burns away merrily. Its a safety matter chaps.

fire extinguishers

Ted Leahy

I take it both extinguishers have to be accessable from both the driver & navigators seat whilst strapped in...? Would it be OK to have one for the driver & one for the navigator? Just thinking on where to possition 2 2ltr units!!!! (subject to us needing them of course!) This racing is getting expensive with rule changes. Can find a reasonably priced helmet for next year anywhere! If any one knows where to get one please let me know - Could we do a bulk NORC order & get them at trade price????

Just got to find some cheap tyres now too....

Ted

fire extinguishers

Ted Leahy

Just got to find some cheap tyres now too....

Ted

fire extinguishers

Ted Leahy

Just got to find some cheap tyres now too....

Ted

fire extinguishers

Mike Hannak

Hi there just want to point out that the new regs for the atv's state that you need a 1.75l extinguisher, if they are entering the same race as us surley they need to be carrying the same equipment that we have to? also if cars in the bccc only have to carry a 1.75l extinguisher this season why is norc different?

Cheers

Mike

fire extinguishers

paul bramley

Hi Matt,

First, section 301 refers to rollcage specification.

The section on page 259 refereing to the non plumbed /plumbed extinguisher is section303 but this section is headed Team Recovery and Timed Trial which I beleive is CCV. and there fore is not applicable to other types of cross country discipline. This section was the same in last years blue book also so why the sudden change? Since no specific mention is made with regard to comp safari fire extinguishers in the cross country technical section then you would expect to follow the general technical / safety regs which brings you back to the original size of extinguisher a 1.75 .litre hand held.

Please note that my only reason for pursueing the point is to save people spending money on something they may not need in these hard times.Our car has carried 2 x 2litre extinguishers at all times.

Regards Keith Bramley

fire extinguishers

matt sagar

The extinguishers have arrived, they are 2 litre capacity and come complete with metal wire type bracket and stainless steel belly band/clip, they will be £25.00 each and will be available at Stainby from the club truck.

fire extinguishers

matt sagar

OK chaps and chapettes, following a conversation with Peter Urwin last night and a further conversation with MSA technical today, we DO need to have 2.25 litres. Heres how it works............Blue book page 259 Sec 301 refers to: cars must comply with CC56(B) not plumbed, herein lies the key, if you then refer to Page 171 and look up CC56(B) it says med plumbed in at 2.25litres, however the reference to NOT PLUMBED on page 259 overides the plumbed in bit on the table (Pg 171), therefore we need 2.25 litres but it doesnt have to be plumbed in.... voila!!!

Clear as mud but thats how it is folks.

The extinguishers I am getting to bring to Stainby are not full 2.25 litre capacity they can however be used as additional. I would think full size would need to come from Demon tweeks, Peter Lloyd etc etc

fire extinguishers

stephen mudd

yes i agree with kieth the chart on page171 says a medium hand operated one of 1.75 litres is all that is needed,has anyone got pete urwins e-mail address?....steve.

fire extinguishers

matt sagar

Not sure off the top of my head what size they are but they aren't the full alleged new capacity, they will however "make up the difference". As soon as they are delivered I will post size.

fire extinguishers

paul bramley

Looking with interest at the debate surrounding fire extinguisher capacity, however I am struggling to see what has been changed. My understanding of the Blue Book was that a single 1.75 litre hand held AFFF extinguisher was the minimum requirement for cross country events at our level. The 2009 Blue Book contains exactly the same chart as 2008 and so can some one explain why we now need an extinguisher capacity that does not appear in the Blue Book? Table 56 on page 171 indicates all the current minimum sizes and the only hand held extinguisher size applicable to our level of competition is 1.75litre.

Would someone clarify the situation please?

Keith Bramley.

stephen mudd

hello out there, can anybody tell me the best place to buy the new 2.4 litre fire extinguishers from.....steve.

New Points

Luke Sagar

Just a quick note to ask all drivers entering this year to bear with us with the numbering system. not sure if all aware that it was voted in at the agm that a new numbering system was voted in.

Numbers 1 to 10 are as normal all numbers

11 onwards was decided that the number you ran with last year you will run with this year. only this may cause some confusion and upset, but bear with us and we will try our best to let you run with the numbers you ran with last year,

Information that will be displayed will be:

Name
Racing Experiences
Photo
Racing Number
Car Details including class, engine size and type. Build details. Also if you have a name for your car, like "Tomcat"
Driver and co drivers names
Favourite course.
Some previous results (in any championship)
A small space for your sponsors.
Anything else you can think of, such as likes, dislikes, fave course etc.

I would will require an email with the above question's answered. Please don't reply here.

The only people eligible will be the drivers taking part in this years Championship.

garage sale

matt sagar

Might be an idea to keep one of those gearboxes Luke?????

garage sale

Luke Sagar

I suppose i better leave a contact number- luke sagar - 07882134976 or dick sagar - 07771545789

garage sale

Luke Sagar

1:6:1 transfer box in good condition - £350 ono

2 lt77 gearbox's to fit defender one is in good working order,other one spares and repairs - £50 ono

J Fearn intercooler to suit TD5/TDI/BMW, made to fit between wings on landrover also with various silicone hoses only did one season - £150 ono

various 10 spline axle parts diffs/shafts etc - offers

two small 2 stroke generators- £20 each

Instructions on listing an item for sale.

Spencer Hall

Many of you have asked how to list an item for sale.

To be able to list an item you must be logged in.

Select the for sale forum and then "New Thread" from the top right hand corner

Type a title for the item and in the body of the message. Type the description.

Now if you want ot add photo etc this as been documented already  click the link below.

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Please be aware that this forum is open to everyone, and new internet scams come out everyday. NORC take no responsiblity for the item listed on this site.

Items for Sale

Spencer Hall

Instruction on using the editor.

Spencer Hall

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Tyre list

peter king

This is the list as taken from the AWDC website.

I'm hoping that this is the "list v" that the MSA are on about in the new rules.

Anyhow, it's split into 3 (A/T M/T Aggressive)List V(a) ALL TERRAIN
Appollo Storm
Aurora RF 05
Avon Ranger AT
BF Goodrich All Terrain
BF Goodrich AT KO
BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A
Blue Streak Treva Radial AT
Bridgestone AT
Bridgestone AT 693
Bridgestone Dueller A/T 694
Bronco Grip Edge
Colway C-Trax All Terrain
Cooper Discoverer ATR
Cooper ST
Cooper AT
Continental ContiCrossContact AT
Dick Cepek Radial F-C II
Dunlop Grandtrek AT2
Dunlop Grandtrek TG4
Dunlop Qualifier TG20
Dunlop Grandtrek TG30
Dunlop Road Gripper F
Dunlop Trak-RV
Enduro AT
LFalken LA/AT
Federal MS 351 A/T
Fedima Rally Tyre
Firestone Destination AT
Fulda Tramp 4x4 Mix
Fulda Multitrac 4x4
General Grabber All Terrain
General Grabber AT2
General SAG Radial
Goodyear G82
Goodyear G90 (all terrain)
Goodyear Wrangle AT/R
Goodyear Wrangle AT/S
Goodyear Workhouse Extra Grip
GT Radial Savero A/T
Hercules Durango AT
Hercules Terra Trac AW
Hercules Terra Trac AT
Insa Turbo Mountain AT
Insa Turbo Ranger AT
Interco TSL / Thornbird
Interco VorTrac
Kelly Safari DTR
Kingpin Advantage M&S
Kingpin Technic Tracker
Kirov K-153
Kumho KL41
Kumho 822
Kumho 825
Kumho KL78 AT
Lassa Competus
Marix Ecoland
Marshal AT
Marshal Road Venture AT KL78
Mastercraft Courser CT
Mastercraft Courser Radial
Mastercraft AT2
Mastercraft AT
Mastercraft AWT
Matador MP 71 – Izzarda 4x4
Matador MP76 Bogatyre
Maxsport INVADOR
Maxxis MA 751 Bravo
Mickey Thompson BAJA ATZ PLUS RADIAL
Mickey Thompson BAJA ATZ RADIAL
Mickey Thompson Belted HP
Mickey Thompson ATZ
Mickey Thompson ATZ SLT
Michelin AT
Michelin XCL (AT)
Michelin XZY (all terrain)
Mitas CT-06
Nankang N830 Wide Conqurer
Nankang N-889
Nexen (Roadstone) Radial A/T 4x4
Nitto Tire Dune Grappler
Nitto Tire Terra Grappler
Pirelli Scorpion A/T
Pro Comp All Terrain
Pro Comp XTreme A/T
Remington Wide Brute XT
Sportway AT+
Starfire Durango XTR
Starfire Durango AT
Sumito Serengeti A/T SL850
Technic Tracker II A/T
Toyo Open Country AT
Uniroyal Laredo AWT
Yokohamo Geolander GOO1 MT
Yokohama Geolander GO11 A/T+II
Yokohama Geolander GO12 AT

List V(B) MUD TERRAIN
Tyres in List V(a) and the following:
BF Goodrich Mud Terrain MT KM
Bronco RoughRider
Colway C-Trax Mud Terrain
Colway Greenway Chaco
Colway Greenway Macho
Cooper Discoverer STT(MT)
Dick Cepek Crusher
Dick Cepek Mud Country
Dunlop Grandtrek MT2
Fedima Extreme
Fedima MT
Fedima Partner
Firestone SAT
General Grabber Mud Terrain
Goodride CR857 MT
GoodYear Wrangler MT/R
Hankook RT01 M/T
Hankook RT03
Hercules HDT
Insa Turbo SAHARA MT
Insa Turbo Dakar MT
Interco Ground Hawg Bias
Interco Ground Hawg Radial
Interco Narrow Super Swamper (SS)
Interco SS M16
Interco SSR
Interco Super Swamper
Interco TrXus MT/STS
IntercoTSL Radial
IntercoTSL/SX
Kingpin KMTR Mud Terrain
Kirov K-151
Kumho 834
Kumho KL71 MT
Lassa LT A
Marshal Road Venture MT 834
Matador MP 75 – Wissentta
Maxsport Mud Plugga
Mastercraft MT
Maxxis M8060 Trepador
Maxxis MT754 Buckstot Mudder
Merit All Country MT
Mickey Thompson BAJA MTZ Radial
Michelin XZL (mud terrain)
Mud Country Remoulds
Nitto Mud Grappler
Pirelli Scorpion Mud
Pro Comp Mud Terrain
Pro Comp X Terrain
Pro Comp XTreme Mud Terrain
Simex Jungle Trekker
Sportway MT+
Toyo Transpath MT
Uniroyal Laredo HD-T

List V(C) AGGRESSIVE
Bronco Diamond Back
Bronco Grizzly Claw
Dick Cepek Crusher
Fedima Trekker
Greenway Aligator
Greenway Anaconda
Greenway Atatcama
Insa Turbo Special Track
Interco TSL Super Swamper Bogger
Kingpin Highlander Diamond
Maxsport Diamond Off Road Tyre
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw
Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Bias Belted
Marix Lion
Marix Puma
Maxxis M8060 Trepador Competition
Pit Bull Rocker
Recip Maxi 3D O/R
Recip Trial M/T
Simex Extreme Trekker

There will be tyres added as time goes on and people ask if they're ok or not etc.

Hope that helps ?

Club logo

The trouble ive got matt is that me and dave billings bought honda pilots and a racing quads so its hard to do anything to the car wen you can just go out and play on the other toys instead...

It doesnt give the image of a racing club though, more like a play day.. We could do with something to drum up some more interest seen as numbers are dwindling..

Club logo

matt sagar

the "Old" jeepman logo was actually resurrected about 3 years ago ,if you see it on some clothing etc it looks very smart, there have been numerous "attempts" at new logos and nothing seems to cut it. Lets face it we have had it all this time why change it, thousands of other companys, institutions, keep their logo the same, seems to work worldwide!!

Club logo

Michael McInnes

if it aint broke, dont try fixing it ! (my vote)

Club logo

Luke Sagar

we don't like change us northern folk

Club logo

Could we have a vote on the club logo?

 I think it looks a bit cheezy to be honest, what was wrong with the old one ( a cartoon type picture of a racer going down a hill) it looked more like what the club is about.

msa tyre choice from 2010

peter urwin

read your "motorsports now" page 49 (autumn 2008)

compeditors make sure you get the club involved with the MSA Tyre Panel to get the best outcome for you & the club

2009 new rules

Is there a tyre list yet?

2009 new rules

Captain Chaos

they look good tyres:

http://www.4x4tyres.com/index.php?show=tyres&rim=R16&profile=235/85

2009 new rules

mike moran

As the only Hillrally running at the moment is the Scottish, you are allowed to use 'recip' tyres....they make diamonds look like slicks !!

2009 new rules

Simon Cotton

Yes John i have got them on my landrover and i found them very good in the mud at Manby as they are self cleaning (well i did not get bogged down despite a few big holes which i found), the Colway mud terrains that i used last year were crap in the mud at Manby. The tread appears to be faily aggressive and their is some additional side wall protection and so far i think they are quite good mud terrain tyre.

2009 new rules

Jon wilson

diverting back onto tyres...........

Anyone any experience on those new khumo mt's?? look interesting tread and not too dear.

either them or the insa mt's? know these are a remould but ???

2009 new rules

Alistair Wilson

At work we get them from www.newpig.co.uk

I don't know how much they are cos I don't do the ordering, but knowing how tight my company is when it comes to money these must do a decent deal!

2009 new rules

peter king

2 or 3 mats (normally about A4 to A3 size) in a bin bag (to keep them dry, ish) would be fine. Where you get them from or what brand they are don't matter, as long as they're there.

I get the arco kits as they seam good money for what you get.

2009 new rules

Alistair Wilson

....I wondered why we got extra milk!!

found some spillage mats at work so we're sorted. hee hee.

2009 new rules

Jon wilson

Alistair Wilson wrote:

"or ( me being stuupid) wher do we get an 'official' kit from ?"

Jon, you can get one from ARCO as pete said. http://www.arco.co.uk/

or thermo fisher. any scientific, motor or building supplier should do em too.

I thought you were the intelligent one!!...or that's what mum used to say :o(

nah, you were the milkman's, so you got the brains!,

can you not nick a load from work then we can go round selling them at comp's ???

2009 new rules

Alistair Wilson

"or ( me being stuupid) wher do we get an 'official' kit from ?"

Jon, you can get one from ARCO as pete said. http://www.arco.co.uk/

or thermo fisher. any scientific, motor or building supplier should do em too.

I thought you were the intelligent one!!...or that's what mum used to say :o(

2009 new rules

Jon wilson

think we need more of a dribble kit than a spill kit....

never have enough fluids to spill anything.....

but the bloody thing allways dribbles...

at least when it stops dribbling, I know to top it up...

but that's landrovers for you...

does it have to be an 'official' spill kit or can we improvise?????

if so what are you looking for when you run round the pits doing spot checks?

or ( me being stuupid) wher do we get an 'official' kit from ?

ta!

but to answer the question, no problem carrying one.

2009 new rules

peter king

At least we're giving you all a year's notice to run out your current stock of diamonds, and have a progressive change over period.

If we join with the AWDC and the BCCC we can hopefully stear the MSA in the direction that we want the sport to go.

But you're ok with carrying a spill kit then?

2009 new rules

Captain Chaos

surely this is something for the members to decide, as it is such a unpopular subject, (not everyone hasthe luxury of being near the pub where the comitee meet.

I agree bring in a tyre list, but only for the events that require one, but free tyres for those that don't (i.e. Manby, Stainby, Withworth, Wickenby......)

Please consult the drivers before doing anything - AWDC are already having to back peddle with their rule.

2009 new rules

peter king

Spill kit's. You will all need to carry a small spill kit in the car from in 2009 (2 or 3 of the matts and a bin bag to put them in would be fine), less than £30 gets you a kit with 20 matts in to keep in the service vehicle (ARCO).

and (we're not going to be popular here I know)

After much debating we are going to introduce a new tyre rule, we will, like the AWDC adopt the hill rally tyre list, and i'll try and stick the list on here in a min.

So it's the end for the diamond tyre! kind of.

We are going to give you all a year to run out your current stock of diamonds (we will come up with a max tred depth so we have somthing to measue against). So if you've any new ones make sure that you use them a couple of times this year and they should be worn enough.

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I have enable the email verification on the creation of new forum member accounts. I have had to do this as some people were not putting email addresses in, and this was preventing email from being set out to all the users.

Spencer

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Links on how to use the web site including admin functions etc..

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SCOTTISH PERTHSHIRE HILL RALLY

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As for the mechanical or common rail-- this does not help the entry level at all, the top of every club will always be OK, it is the entry level where we have to be seen to encouraging new members. Steve

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Like any mixed suspension type the best, in this senario indy, takes preference there classed as indy-- problem solved not created.

As for the mechanical or common rail-- this does not help the entry level at all, the top of every club will always be OK, it is the entry level where we have to be seen to encouraging new members. Steve

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